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I'm interested in developing some themes/templates for the Website/Ecommerce modules that are being rolled out in OpenERP v8 (and is currently available in trunk).

I have a few questions regarding how themes should be packaged and implemented, as well as regarding the general functionality of the Ecommerce module itself. If anyone can offer any insight on this it would be much appreciated.

In regards to the functionality of the Ecommerce module I would like to know if there will be provision for business that operate business to business only, as well as dual channel (ie. business to business and business to consumer).

A business selling products directly to other businesses (such as a distributor) would have the need for a product catalog without pricing or shopping cart functionality for the casual visitor, but would benefit from allowing their business clients (ie. wholesale clients) to be able to login to the website and place purchase orders (eg. via 'add to quote' button or similar) directly through the website (after they have logged in). These B2B clients could then be assigned pricing according to their designated OpenERP price list and this would allow for the full PO/Quotation to Shipment workflow through the frontend of the website, allowing for easy order processing, as well as full visibility on past orders, invoices, etc. in a similar manner to Magento.

A business operating both B2B and B2C would benefit from being able to show prices according to customer group (eg. Magento customer groups) or OpenERP pricelist so that they can sell retail for casual visitors, while offering wholesale clients a way to place orders 24/7 according to their specific pricelist implemented in OpenERP.

In regards to implementing custom themes/templates, I have noticed the current implementation uses a mixture of HTML, XML, CSS, JS and python to build the theme. Any information or guidance on how to implement a new theme/template in addition to the current selection from bootswatch.com would be much appreciated, as I would like to be able to roll out themes/templates as soon as v8/trunk is released to the public.

In regards to different domains in a multi-website, multi-domain implementation, I cannot see how to set this up given the current admin controls (under Settings >> Configuration >> Website Settings) as currently there is only provision for the following:

(Under Domain Heading): Google Analytics Key

(Under Social Media) Twitter Facebook Github Linkedin Youtube Google+

(Under Language):

Default Language: (eg. English)

If I was to be running multiple OpenERP databases, each with their own set of websites and languages attached, how would I make sure that visitors are directed to www.exampledomain.com rather than to the database selector by default? I noticed that in an earlier version of trunk-website-al there was provision for a domain, which I assume could be used with Nginx or OpenERP's built-in webserver to allow for this type of implementation. Preferably frontend users (especially retail customers) would never see, or be aware of the admin/backend of OpenERP so that websites could operate as a standard e-commerce website for both security purposes and ease of use.

In regards to performance for the website frontend, I would also like to know if it will be possible to use Nginx/Varnish to deliver content. From my understanding it should be possible to simply run the OpenERP website module on one port (eg. port 8099) and ask varnish to listen on that port (eg. 8099) and serve content on port 80. Will this be possible with the website module in OpenERP 8/trunk?

I understand this is all still currently under development, however any information/guidance on these topics would be much appreciated.

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I am also interested in multi-website for the same database(ie a specific shop for each product line or department). Not sure if this is built-in or would require an extension. Can't seem to find the options for it.

further to this, i've found a succinct explanation of theme structure from Fabien from the OpenDay slides here: https://github.com/odoo/odoodays-2014/blob/master/create_themes/index.rst

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@Denise, You may want to check out this module: https://github.com/odoo/odoo-extra/tree/master/website_multi I'm not sure whether this is designed for backporting to 8.0, however it seems to be working in the 8.0 branch on a development machine.

For anyone following this thread, It looks like the development of website_multi is being backported to 8.0: just create a temp directory on your dev machine and do the following: sudo git clone -b 8.0-website_multi2-vta https://github.com/odoo-dev/odoo.git then just create a symlink for the website_multi module into your Odoo 8.0 module directory. This module is definitely still under heavy development so please don't use it in production without adequate testing. This allows for multiple websites and multiple domains to be handled in 8.0!

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Whilst this is not a theme in Odoo's formal definition on the term, due to the lack of a clear specification for creating full-blown odoo themes I have resorted to applying my own stylesheets to override the bootswatch based ones that Odoo gives you out of the box. If you are on the Odoo Saas then you will need to store your stylesheet on your own domain. Once you have a css file you want to use to override what you are given simply use the html editor to edit the template 'Theme' like so (saas3):-

 

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<t name="Theme" t-name="website.theme">
    <link id="bootstrap_css" rel="stylesheet" href="/website/static/lib/bootstrap/css/bootstrap.css" t-ignore="true"/>
    <link id="website_css" rel="stylesheet" href="/website/static/src/css/website.css" t-ignore="true"/>
     <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="//www.mydomain.com/mycss.css"/>
</t>

You add the line in bold - it should then change the theme for all pages in your system. If you base your theme on the bootswatch css - then there's the least chance that future changes to the Odoo templates will not work with your theme.

In saas 5 and v8/saas6 there is no template called 'Theme' that can be accessed from the html editor. The template called 'Saas Website' seems to hold similar xpath instructions and you can instead put your stylesheet link immediately after the reference to saas_website.css.

Hope this is useful in the meantime.

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Hi Kurt, I've put together some very basic instructions on how to get started with local theme development here: https://www.odoo.com/forum/help-1/question/new-bootstrap-theme-on-website-builder-58809

Luke,

thanks for this - I am still finding it rather amazing that you are having to do this because odoo SA haven't. My experience of other ecommerce platforms, such as opencart and before that OScommerce, is that the simply paid-for themes created by designers are one of the key ways of promoting the platform - this is, after all what sites like templatemonster and envato have been doing for 10 years now. At the conference in June I got the impression that Odoo understood this and were going to produce a way to allow 1) data-only modules containing themes to be installed on their saas and 2) to find a way of allowing designers to be paid for these themes. Do this and they could open up a significant new market of SME online store-owners and publicity for their platform.

It is now nearly two months since that conference and we still don't have v8 officially released yet and no further news about customising themes - all very frustrating!

By the way - do you provide odoo services - it seems you know what you are doing with the ecommerce front-end when so many 'partners' here in the UK still seem to know next-to-nothing about it with the continual excuse that they are waiting for v8 to be released.

regards

Kurt


Hi Kurt, I've put together some very basic instructions on how to get started with local theme development here: https://www.odoo.com/forum/help-1/question/new-bootstrap-theme-on-website-builder-58809

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If anyone has any tips on theme file structure and method of packaging (eg. custom module) for the new CMS/E-Commerce features rolled out in v8 please let me know. I would like to begin working on custom bootstrap 3 themes for use with the website/e-commerce functionality, however i'm not sure where to start.

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I dont know of issue but I know that you can find the themes used in bootswatch.com. Maybe there you will find more information.

Furthermore you can configure to sell both businesses and individuals as I have been researching. That you do it from the moment you set configuring clients with a particular price list. Customers can "logging" as in the portal and prices would change for them.

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